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[Jinadaze]

pa viskoza (ampak to je vsaj meni isti šmorn, kot poliester).

 

To pa RES ni isto. Že na otip ne, pa koža diha v njej (kot v vseh naravnih materialih).

[Ancka Pomarancka]

sem sumila, da se boš oglasila

 

Meni je pač isto. Viskoza se mi ful hitreje usmradi kot naravni materiali.

[Jinadaze]

Meni drugače še vedno ni jasno, zakaj se vegani izogibajo volne. Pri tem nihče ne trpi, kvečjemu bi ovce, če jih ne bi postrigli.

Raje si zvrtam luknjo v koleno, kot da zimo preživim v plastičnem plašču in čevljih. 

[Ancka Pomarancka]

ker gre za "masovno proizvodnjo" ovc z namenom, da se jih bo striglo + zaklalo.

 

Načeloma, če bi imela ovco kot hišnega ljubljenčka in bi jo strigla ter iz te volne naredila pulover, bi to bilo moralno sprejemljivo.

[Jinadaze]

Ja, saj vem to, ampak mi ne drži vode. Je pa res, da nisem še videla kakšnih krutih prizorov, kot. npr. iz klavnic.

Poznam pa kar nekaj ljudi, ki se prehranjujejo vegansko, pa nosijo volno (in svilo).

[Anouk]

O volni na kratko tukaj (slo) in tukaj (ang). 

[Anouk]

Pa se v parih minutah (povzema Pink): http://bit.ly/9beZkv

[Kinky]

Poznam pa kar nekaj ljudi, ki se prehranjujejo vegansko, pa nosijo volno (in svilo).

 

Tudi jaz. Ampak jaz hočem biti veganka, in se ne zgolj vegansko prehranjevati. Vem, da bo včasih težko najti kakšen kos oblačila, sploh pa čevlje, ampak bom že.

 

Linki so precej zgovorni, in jaz volne ne bom kupila več.

[Anouk]

A bi bilo smiselno naredit en razdelek z naslovom 'Vegan-friendly obutev' in 'Vegan-friendly oblacila' v razdelku Moda in zadnji trendi? Ali bi bilo bolje klasificirati obutev/jakne in plasci/puloverji? Tako bi samo izdelki iz krzna, usnja, volne, svile ipd. padli v druge, ze obstojece kategorije (pa sestavinsko 'neznani' izdelki prav tako). 

[Kalypso]

Jah, samo ko lepiš slike v že obstoječe teme slike se vsaj jaz osebno ne zmenim za sestavo. Sploh, če poberem slike iz kakšnih blogov, kjer ni podatkov o sestavi, tako da mislim, da bi zahtevalo preveč komplikacij, če bi želeli preuredit že obstoječe teme. Se strinjam s predlaganim odprtjem teme "Vegan-friendly oblacila in obutev"  (lahko skupaj, lahko posebej) in prestavitev postov iz te teme v tisto temo. 

[Anouk]

Ja, saj vem, ampak ce lepis direktno s kaksne strani (npr. Esprit ali ASOS ali kaj podobnega), pa ni problem se sestave osvrknit, sploh pri kakih cevljih je precej straight-forward. To sem imela bolj v mislih, sestavinsko neznani izdelki pa so se nanasali na bloge in ostalo copy/pastanje z interneta .

[Immortelle]

Je pa res, da nisem še videla kakšnih krutih prizorov, kot. npr. iz klavnic.

 

 

       

 

 

This unnatural overload of wool causes many sheep to collapse and even die of heat exhaustion during hot months, and the wrinkles collect urine and moisture. Attracted to the moisture, flies lay eggs in the folds of skin, and the hatched maggots can eat the sheep alive. 

To prevent this so-called "flystrike," sheep ranchers perform a barbaric procedure called "mulesing," in which they force live sheep onto their backs, restrain their legs between metal bars, and, often without any painkillers whatsoever, carve huge chunks of skin away from the animals' backsides or attach vise-like clamps to their flesh until it dies and sloughs off. Both procedures are terribly painful.

Mulesing is a crude attempt to create smoother skin that won’t collect moisture, but the exposed, bloody wounds often become infected or flystruck. Many sheep who have undergone the mulesing mutilation still suffer slow, agonizing deaths from flystrike.

[Jinadaze]

Meni se to, kar se (je) dogaja(lo) v Avstraliji ne zdi preveč relevantno.

Članka sem pa prebrala, ampak vseeno hvala, ker si se potrudila nalimat slike.

[Anouk]

Zakaj pa ne? Konec koncev vecji del volne pride od tam:

 

Global woolclip (total amount of wool shorn) 2004/2005^[27]

1.  Australia: 25% of global woolclip 
2.  China: 18%
3.  United States: 17%
4.  New Zealand: 11%
5.  Argentina: 3%
6.  Turkey: 2%
7.  Iran: 2%
8.  United Kingdom: 2%
9.  India: 2%
10.  Sudan: 2%
11.  South Africa: 1%

[Jinadaze]

Kolikor je meni znano, je zdaj glavna proizvajalka volne Kitajska. Ampak ja, tudi iz Avstralije gre izvoz večinoma tja (in v Indijo), pa oznaka Made in China, ki sama po sebi asociira na nemogoče pogoje dela in izkoriščanje delovne sile (otroci included) s tega vidika gane manj ljudi, kot spornost volne same.

 

Drugače pa:

 

Pred nekaj leti je avstralskim društvom za pravice živali priskočilo na pomoč še društvo PETA, ki je problematiko mulesinga internacionaliziralo. Številna – predvsem evropska -  podjetja oblačilne stroke so napovedala bojkot avstralske volne, pridobljene od ovc, ki so bile podvržene mulesingu, tako da je začela Avstralija aktivno iskati alternative.

[Anouk]

Ja, to je definitivno velik problem - mislim, da v dobrsni meri tudi zato, ker je dejansko tezko razbrat z izdelka, kaj se je dogajalo z njim in delavci samimi. Spomnim se, da je bila pred leti aktualna ena spletna stran, na kateri si lahko primerjal okoljske, zaposlitvene in se ene druge kriterije oblacil vecine proizvajalcev, ampak je ne uspem priklicat zdaj :/. Ampak s prebiranjem etiket lahko deloma resis vsaj eno problematiko izkoriscanja, kar je se vedno bolje kot nic (ciljam na volno in sorodne izdelke, pa hkrati tudi na pogoje delavcev). 

 

Je pa lep del vegan-friendly podjetij tudi precej naklonjen cloveskim pravicam (kar sovpada v fizolofijo za veganstvom), ceprav so na ta racun potem sami izdelki navadno drazji (pri iniciativi se tudi vedno trudimo okolju prijazne Fair Trade majice za tisk izsledit, recimo). 

 

 

[Anouk]

Medtem, ko v Sloveniji se vedno razpravljamo o beljakovinah ... novica iz Avstralije:

 

[Immortelle]

 

 

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But most of all…I have an amazing sense of mental clarity never experienced before prior to adopting a totally plant-based, healthy, CRUELTY-FREE lifestyle.
It is the best decision I have ever made & I feel better as a person knowing that I am causing harm to NO one. No being had to be slaughtered or be objectified for my consumption. Going vegan is easier than you may think…and feels even better than you could imagine!

[Immortelle]

[morettina]

Jaz sem pa probala Valsoia vegeburger in giros iz Spara. Zelo je okusno:)

 

Grem za en teden v Grčijo, tako da bo malo težje. Sem najdla fajn recepte in seznam restavracij:) Bom pa med samimi Grki, tako da se bom morala nekako znajti,ker vem, da bo večinoma povsod meso:s Ampak glede na to, da imajo veliko raznovrstne in sveže hrane, se da:)

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