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#1201 Coco*

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:59 PM

Je kdo bral Zgodba o ljubezni in temnini Amosa Oza?


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:38 AM

Vojnović :lol:


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:41 AM

Med drugim. :lol: Enkrat sem jo zasledila na enem forumu in ne morem več najti.


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:05 PM

Kolikor se je sedaj razpasla knjiga 50 shades of grey jo vseeno močno priporočam, ker ni samo en pornič kot razlaga folk ampak veliko več. Zgodba govori o kompleksnosti odnosa med človekom ki ga je temna preteklost zaznamovala in dekletom ki ga hoče osvoboditi teh spon ki mu onemogočajo normalen čustven odnos.

 

Je pa napisan kot prijetno poletno branje ne kot neka težka psihološka knjiga, se pa večina tako obeša na seksualne prizore da zgreši poanto


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:01 PM

Jaz se bolj strinjam s tole recenzijo:http://www.goodreads.../show/340987215

 

Še posebej tale odstavek:Now I'll be totally honest, the biggest issue I have with Fifty Shades of Shit is neither the sex nor the horrible writing. It's the plot. Thin as it is, it's still there, its core message being that, given enough time, you can change someone. While I don't have any problem with this if all you're trying to do is help them to lose weight or quit smoking, when you're talking about an emotionally and (dangerously close to) physically abusive relationship, sending that kind of message is ridiculous and irresponsible. Christian is controlling, possessive, condescending, and cruel. He doesn't allow Ana to behave as she normally would, and Ana just puts up with it, insistent that if she can give him what he wants, when he wants, as often as he wants, she can eventually begin to pull his strings. Will it work? In the books, probably. In real life? No. Almost never. How many misguided women are going to waste their lives on some emotionally retarded prick because they've read shit like this and think this kind of fucked-up fairytale will come true for them? I've known women with this mentality. "Oh, he's so dark and dangerous and threatening, but he's got a sad, lonely side, and if I could just figure out what's wrong, I could change him!"Wake the fuck up! He may be hot, he may have a huge dick, he may even be rich, that doesn't make him a good person. It doesn't even make him a potentially good person. Quit.Being.A.Fucking.Idiot.

It's this kind of ignorant trash that sets feminism back decades. Women who defend this book are, however unwittingly, participating in some of the most blatant misogyny I've ever witnessed, giving the impression that some women enjoy being debased, abused, and controlled (outside of a consensual Dom/sub relationship). This is not a book about BDSM, this is a book about one sick, abusive man and his obsession with a young, naive invertebrate. It's a book about a girl who has absolutely no sense of self, who sacrifices any pretense of individuality in order to hold onto a man who doesn't even show her the faintest glimmer of respect. It's about two attention-starved individuals with the emotional maturity of toilet paper convincing themselves that their relationship is 'like, the best thing ever, OMG'. It's trite, insulting, and dangerous. I fear for any impressionable young women who read this and think that this is how an ideal relationship should operate. If nothing else, it should be issued as a guidebook to mothers around the world to show their daughters the kind of man to avoid at all costs. This book does good men (and indeed, all of humanity) a disservice.

 

Seksualni opisi pa...no ja, veliko copy pastanja, pa glede na opis ne bi rekla, da je tip ravno odličen v postelji :D



 


 


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:50 AM

Jaz sem ravno prebrala (bolje rečeno se prebila skozi) prvi del in ga ni denarja na svetu, da bi začela drugega. Z besedami se ne da opisati, kako je ta knjiga zanič in smili se mi tisoče žensk po tem svetu, katerih seks je očitno tako podpovprečen, da cele mokre požirajo take zgodbe. 


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:09 AM

:worthy1:  :thumbup:


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:49 PM

Podpis, podpis. Jaz sem že mesece nazaj tole prebrala in tudi napisala svoje mnenje o tem. Jasno je, da tisti, katerim so te knjige vsec, ne vejo kaj je dobra - kakovostna knjiga. Ajme bože, res.

Kot sem rekla, to je tipičen primer knjige, ki je vseč populaciji, ki je zadnjič knjigo držala v roki v OŠ bralni znački.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 11:08 PM

 

Kot sem rekla, to je tipičen primer knjige, ki je vseč populaciji, ki je zadnjič knjigo držala v roki v OŠ bralni znački.

:lol: ohjoj, potem je ne bom niti jemala v knjižnici. Sem mislila, da je kaj vredna glede na vso to famo okrog nje.


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 05:59 AM

Takrat, ko je ogromna fama okrog kakšne knjige, moraš pričakovat, da je verjetno zanič, ker jo razume večina prebivalstva.


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 07:14 AM

Ne, knjiga ni vredna, zapravljanje časa. Jaz sem se ravno nekaj dni nazaj ustavila pred polico v Leclercu, najprej poskrbela, da me nihče ne vidi, haha, nato pa vzela v roke prvi del trilogije.

 

Odprla sem na naključni strani, ravno ko jo je učil jesti ostrige (ki jih je ona prvič jedla). Njen odnos do nje je grozen, non stop jo ponižuje. Da niti ne omenjam sloga, obupni stavki (tudi prevod je najbrž

'briljanten'. In.On.Se.Non.Stop.Tako.Izraža.

 

Grozljivo, kot v srednjem veku bi morali vse izvode te knjige zažgati. 


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:41 AM

Takrat, ko je ogromna fama okrog kakšne knjige, moraš pričakovat, da je verjetno zanič, ker jo razume večina prebivalstva.

 

Jaz tudi tako mislim in ko mi začnejo o neki knjigi govorit ljudje, ki drugače ničesar ne preberejo, me vse mine.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:03 PM

Jaz jo sicer še nisem prebrala, jo bom pa sigurno. In če jo vzameš kot lahkotno poletno branje, po moje ne more ravno razočarat. Sem v življenju že marsikaj prebrala,  zadnja leta žal manj, ampak take knjige nekako enačim z babjimi filmi - ni kompleksna vsebina, ni vrhunska igra, včasih že kar poneumljajo ... ampak kdaj pa kdaj enostavno pašejo... vsaj meni.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:28 PM

Se strinjam, da včasih paše kaj lažjega. Ampak ne vem, bereš Sophie Kinsello, ki vseeno premore nek stil pisanja, kar jo dviga nekaj razredov nad Fifty Shades. :)

 

Sicer pa ja, vsakemu svoje. ;)


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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:56 PM

Jaz še kar prebiram Muzej nedolžnosti, mislim, da mi je to najbolj počasna Pamukova knjiga, preberem zvečer 15 strani in odložim knjigo za nekaj dni, potem pa zvečer spe preberem naslednjih 20 in tako naprej. Ne vem pa več, kaj naj si mislim, približno prvih 200 strani mi je bila všeč, potem pa manj, mogoče nisem več razpoložena in se mi vleče.


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#1216 Kami

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 01:20 PM

Tiste, ki ste brale T. Gerritsen  ... a je kakšno pravilo, kako se lotit knjig ali je vsaka knjiga zase?


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 01:30 PM

Tako - tako, mislim, zgodbe so vsaka zase, ampak si vseeno sledijo kronološko.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 01:45 PM

s katero pa predlagate, da začnem?


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 02:05 PM

Pobrskaj po internetu katera je bila prva, ne spomnim se iz glave.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:34 AM

No zdaj sem v roke dobila slavnih Pedeset odtenkov in sploh ni "tako" slaba, kot sem se bala. Prebrala sem cca 100 strani, jezik je bolj pogovoren in za preletet knjigo kot razvedilo je čisto OK (do sedaj).


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