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#81 Matilda

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 08:54 AM

QUOTE(Kinky @ 8. 10. 2011 - 9:43) View Post
Jim Carrey igra samega sebe, meni je načeloma precej simpatičen, ampak tukaj ne pokaže popolnoma nič novega, Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber, Yes Man - vse to smo že videli; jaz ga raje gledam v dramah, kjer se resnično pokaže njegov talent.


Meni je bil precej zanimivi film The Number 23, kjer igra Jim.
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Posted 08 October 2011 - 08:56 AM

Tega še nisem gledala, mi je pa bil ZELO všeč v:

- I love you Philip Morris (ta je vmes med dramo in komedijo)

in pa:

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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 05:40 PM

še en ne-američki, baje full dober film:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/

me je brat danes klical, da ga obvezno moram pogledati(bom danes)....je katera že gledala?
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Posted 08 October 2011 - 10:46 PM



Ja, jaz sem ga gledala, meni je bil film res ODLIČEN, ogled nujen!

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 06:36 AM

Sem gledala že pred leti, super je.


Naj omenim še tega v isti sapi:

A Moment to Remember


Priporočam, zelo.
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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:11 AM

super, tudi ta je že na seznamu...
onega(old boy)mi paše ni potegnilo dol down.gif



evo ta je še dober thumbup.gif sem ga gledala pred kratkim:
I SAW THE DEVIL

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1588170/
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 01:06 PM




Oboje je na seznamu za dolvleklo.

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:25 PM




OMG, dr. Hunt je igral v Trainspotting, haha, komaj zdaj sem si gor prišla po oceni od Kinky.
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:34 PM

QUOTE(Kinky @ 12. 10. 2011 - 21:10) View Post

Trainspotting (1996)

Mislim, da smo ta film že vse gledale, če ga pa še nista, naj vam moj prispevek v tej temi služi kot opomnik, da si ga ogledate. Sama sem ga prvič gledala ko je prišel ven, in sem se precej malo spominjala glede vsebine filme; okvirno mi je bilo jasno, kaj je rdeča nit, sem pa danes prijetno obudila spomine.

Ewan McGregor je Renton, mladenič, del edinburške heroinske scene, skupaj s Sick Boyem, Tommyjem in Spudom, se odloči, da bo spremenil svoje življenje in postal čist. To mu ne gre najlažje od rok, kljub podpori staršev, saj ga prijatelji vedno znova potregnejo v začarani krog heroina.

Me pa zanima kako si ve razlagate konec filma? Namreč, Mark (Ewan) na koncu ukrade veliko denarja, 12 tisoč funtov, pač opehari svoje prijatelje, in v zadnjem kadru ga vidimo kako gre čez most, in nam gledalcem obljublja, da se bo spremenil, postal en od nas, začel gledati televizijo, si omisil družino; preprosto počel vse tiste stvari, od dolgočasnosti od katerih je do zdaj dokaj neuspešno bežal.

Jaz sem razumela, da se posmehuje na koncu, ker je ob teh besedah imel na obrazu tak premeten nasmešek; mislim, da je še vedno delal isto kot prej, tisti denar je pa prej ko slej končal v njegovi žili. Nekako podobno kot Alex deLarge v Peklenski pomaranči, ko tudi reče na koncu: I was cured, all right, ampak to še zdaleč ne pomeni, da so ga dejansko uspeli ozdraviti.

Film je režiral Danny Boyle (Slumdog Millionaire, 127 Hours, itd.).
In še en skok iz preteklosti v prihodnost:

Sick Boy - Jonny Lee Miller

Prej in zdaj

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Tommy - Kevin McKidd

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Meni je Trainspotting med top 20 naj filmov. Sem ga gledala že neštetokrat in vedno znova mi je bil všeč.

Konec? Meni je bil Mark izredno prikupen lik, zato sem si konec vedno razlagala, da je pustil preteklost za sabo in z denarjem pričel novo življenje stran od stare družbe, tako kot je tudi poskušal, ko si je dobil službo in preden so se mu na vrata prikazali Begbie, Spud & Sick Boy. Če pa dobro razmislim, bi po drugi strani lahko bilo tudi tvoje predvidevanje pravilno. Glede na to, da se film prične in konča z istim naštevanjem stvari, lahko to razumeš kot da je Mark ponovno tam kjer je bil na začetku filma.
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:49 PM



Name je tudi že dooolgo tega naredil močan vtis.

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 11:28 PM

Enako.



Glede Marka in denarja, se strinjam s Kinky. Tudi jaz verjamem, da je denar pognal po žilah (konec koncev bi v isti situaciji jaz ravnala popolnoma enako). "And the reason? Who needs reasons when you've got heroin? " tongue.gif

Super, ker si tudi Peklensko pomarančo omenila. Se tudi strinjam, da je bil Alex (ponovno) ozdravljen. Se pravi ozdravljen od tega, da ni zmožen nasilja. Torej...spet na začetku.
Kakšen film se vam zdi The Clockwork Orange?
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 11:41 PM



The Clockwork Orange - kultna zadeva, na njega gledam prav s spoštovanjem.

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
- </span></strong><span style="font-size:12px;">Anonymous</span></span></span></p>
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Posted 13 October 2011 - 06:42 AM

QUOTE(Kalypso @ 12. 10. 2011 - 23:34) View Post

Če pa dobro razmislim, bi po drugi strani lahko bilo tudi tvoje predvidevanje pravilno. Glede na to, da se film prične in konča z istim naštevanjem stvari, lahko to razumeš kot da je Mark ponovno tam kjer je bil na začetku filma.


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Ja, tako jaz mislim. Pa šeprav cinično našteva vse te stvari, se mi zdi, in na koncu je preprosto naredil krog, in se podaja v novega, na isti način.

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Še ena zanimivost: šla sem brati na IMDB razprave, kaj pravzaprav pomeni Trainspotting. In gre za nekakšno obsesivno zbiranje podatkov, kot je recimo Sick Boy vedel vse možno o Jamesu Bondu, ali kot so oni vse vedeli vse o drogah (v enem prizoru full nakradejo, in našteva Mark kaj vse so pokradi, vse droge).

Film je odličen, pač en tistih, ki jih slej ko prej morate pogledati. En boljših filmov, ki se ukvarja s tematiko o drogah, poleg recimo ravno tako kultnega Requiem for a Dream (meni osebno številka ena).

Še nekaj glede Peklenske Pomaranče. Ja, meni je film super, sem ga prvič gledala precej časa nazaj, ko še ni bil kulten. Predvsem sem ga pogledala zaradi Kubricka, ki je en meni priljubljenih režiserjev. Knjigo je tudi dobro prebrati. Bom več napisala ko ga ocenim.

Bi pa na tem mestu priložila še eno zanimivost, in sicer zelo popularen (sicer meni ne, ker ne znam nemško) komad od Die Toten Hosen, ki govori o tem filmu. Uživajte.

Hier komt Alex



In a world where you're only living to go through your day like a robot,
the biggest excitement is the daily tv picture.

Every man lives like a clockwork, programmed like a roboter,
there's noone who stands up against it,
just a few youngsters are frustrated.

When the sun sets in the sky, the day starts for the „Droogs
They meet in small gangs and go hunting together.

Hey, here is Alex!
The curtain raises for his Horrorshow!
Hey, here is Alex!
The curtain raises for a little bit of Horrorshow!

On a crusade against order and the seemingly sane world, they celebrate destruction, violance and brutality.

Only when they see their victims suffer do they feel satisfaction.
There's nothing that will stop them now in their limitless anger.

Hey, here is Alex!
The curtain raises for his Horrorshow!
Hey, here is Alex!
The curtain raises for a little bit of Horrorshow!

Twenty against one, until you can see the blood, whether with sticks or stones, at some point the head will crack.
The next victim is already found while you're asking god: „Why havent you done something?

Hey, here is Alex!
The curtain raises for his Horrorshow!
Hey, here is Alex!
The curtain raises for a little bit of Horrorshow!
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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 07:59 AM

Oldeuboi je ful hud film. Kolegica me je vlekla gledat in sem bila prikovana na stol do konca filma.
Se spomnim kako se mi je neumno zdelo, da greva od vseh, ravno to gledat (ko nič nisem vedela o njemu).

A Moment to Remember - enkrat ga je že ena priporočila na forumu (po moje Kinky že pred davnimi leti) in sem si ga takrat ogledala. Dam roko v ogenj, da še v življenju nisem tako jokala ob filmu, kot sem ob tem. Meni je totalno spodnesel tla pod nogami.

McKidd se je fantastično postaral! Pri Trainspottingu si nikoli nisem mogla prodt do konca, kaj hočejo povedat. Oba scenarija se mi zdita popolnoma verjetna in optimistična stran mene meni da se je rešil iz vsega tega, saj ni imel nikogar, ki bi ga nazaj vlekel. Pesimistična pa je seveda z vami. Torej odvisno od dneva smile.gif
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Posted 13 October 2011 - 08:06 AM

QUOTE(Kami @ 13. 10. 2011 - 8:59) View Post

A Moment to Remember - enkrat ga je že ena priporočila na forumu (po moje Kinky že pred davnimi leti) in sem si ga takrat ogledala. Dam roko v ogenj, da še v življenju nisem tako jokala ob filmu, kot sem ob tem. Meni je totalno spodnesel tla pod nogami.


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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 08:18 AM

Hvala za prevod tele pesmi o Alexu. Jaz sem knjigo prebrala že zelo zgodaj (morda celo prezgodaj), film sem gledala pa relativno pozno (pač...ko je prišla možnost interneta, da sem ga lahko povlekla dol).
Tudi meni je zadeva kultna. Edino kar me je v filmu malo zmotilo je to, da Alex nima 14 oz. 15 let (če se ne motim, jih v knjigi ima...vsaj na začetku).


Requiem for a Dream - tega filma pa sploh še nisem pogledala. Ne vem, zakaj.

Nikakor se ne morem spomniti nobenega filma, da bi ga priporočala. Razen kakšne dokaj znane zadeve, katere ste pa sigurno že vse pogledale (npr. Schindlers list, White cat- Black cat, Mrtav ladan...)
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Posted 13 October 2011 - 08:46 AM

Mislim, da je dokumentarec o Traispottingu. Če bo katero zanimalo. (ne vem točno, kaj je, ker še nisem pogledala)


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Posted 13 October 2011 - 08:50 AM

Super, hvala za dokumentarec. wink.gif

QUOTE(Ekaterina @ 13. 10. 2011 - 9:18) View Post

Requiem for a Dream - tega filma pa sploh še nisem pogledala. Ne vem, zakaj.



Zame je to res najboljši film, ne samo o drogi, ampak o odvisnosti na splošno. Od vseh, ki sem jih pogledala, in ni jih malo, ta prednjači. Pa še od mojega najljubšega režiserja je. smile.gif

edit: še zanimivosti o Trainspottingu


For its American release, the first 20 minutes had to be re-dubbed to make the Scottish accents more intelligible.

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To play the skinny heroin-addicted Renton, Ewan McGregor was placed on a simple diet consisting of no alcohol or dairy products in order to lose weight. It only took him two months to reach Renton's desired size.

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Danny Boyle had his actors prepare by making them watch older movies about rebellious youths like The Hustler, The Exorcist and A Clockwork Orange. The latter film is directly homaged in the scene set in the Volcano nightclub, which is very similar to that set in the Milk Bar in Kubrick's film. Indeed, the track playing in the Volcano club is by Heaven 17 who took their name from A Clockwork Orange.
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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:33 AM

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Bom poiskala Requiem for a Dream zdele. Sam zdej mam že Trainspotting odprt, da ga pogledam....spet! wacko.gif Potem pa še tale dokumentarec.

Tisto o hujšanju sem že slišala, ostali dve zanimivosti pa ne...Hvala smile.gif

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:34 AM

Jaz sem bila po Requiemu čist zblojena, sploh spat nisem mogla cry.gif Na koncu me je imelo, da bi kričala.

Pa še glasba iz filma mi zdaj neprijeten občutek vzbuja, haha.
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