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#801 Kinky

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 09:56 PM

O ti prasec. In on, najbrž zanika vse?


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:05 PM

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:06 PM

Zaenkrat še nič. Je pa Stephen King rekel, da ima pismo element of palpable bitchery in ga bodo zdaj zdaj linčali.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:11 PM

Uf, ravno googlam. Se je opravičil, vidim. Hvala obema. 


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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:18 PM

(posvojenka Woodyja Allena - pa ne tista s katero se je potem poročil)

 

Moram popraviti. Te s katero je zdaj poročen, ni nikoli posvojil. Bolno je pa vseeno. Na sploh je bilo to eno čudno gospodinjstvo.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:31 PM

Pa s to je porocen 15 let ze. Ko sta zacela zvezo je bila ona stara 19 on pa 56. Je bila pa ona posvojenka Mie Farrow. Torej Woodyjeve zene.
Jaz cisto verjamem, da so se zlorabe dogajale.
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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:45 PM

Prasec nagnusni. Meni je imel od vedno tak creepy old child molester vibe.   :rpg:


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:47 PM

Tip je čudak, introvertiran umetnik; ga spoštujem kot režiserja, ampak za svoja dejanja mora odgovarjati, pritlikavi stari perverznež.
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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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When you open your mind to the impossible, sometimes you find the truth.


#809 Ana

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 11:13 PM

Pa saj ze njegovi filmi so malo cudni. Njegov film Manhattan ima tako eksplicitno temo : profesor, ki hodi s srednjesolko. Hm...
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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:39 AM

Nočem provocirati, ampak kako zanimivo, da ste Woodya tako rekoč obsodile, za Jacksona ste pa trdile, da je nedolžen :)


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 08:28 AM

Ja, pri takih primerih se je ve, ja. Je pa tudi res, da je bil precej čuden že tisti primer, ko se je 1992 poročil s svojo pastorko (posvojenke Mie Farrow). Kot je Podgana napisala, je takrat Woody imel 56 let,

ona pa 19!!!! Potem bo pa spet rekel: 'The heart wants, what the heart wants'. Vsekakor je treba te obtožbe raziskati.


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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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When you open your mind to the impossible, sometimes you find the truth.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:11 AM

^^ koliko smrklc se poroči z ostarelimi ata-ti ... pa ni nikoli neke velike debate. Pač je punca potrebovala father figure, on pa (kakor sem razumela) je od nekdaj preganjal mlade punce. Če sta obe strani za (in je svobodna odločitev) ne vidim prav nobenega problema.

 

Se pa strinjam z izjavo, da je bilo to eno res noro gospodinjstvo. Mia Farrow, kakor sem brala, je tudi vredna svojega denarja in ni nikoli prebolela stvari. Njeno obnašanje paše nekam v vrtec. In glede na to, da je imela roko tudi nad mlajšimi otroci, je lahko sama marsikaj zakuhala.

 

Jaz ne bi sodila tako hitro. In te izjave po xy letih pri meni ravno ne pijejo vode. Sploh pa to medijsko preganjanje. Če je bilo res (in ne trdim da je bilo, kot tudi da ni bilo), se da nekoga okrivit tudi brez odprtega pisma javnosti. To mi je sploh bolano. Škoda je zdaj narejena, pa če je res ali ne.

Mislim pa, da je to ena precej nora družina, polna zamer in neražiščene preteklosti...


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:12 AM

Jaz napisala :P.

Jaz za Jacksona nisem prepricana. Vsekakor je bil tudi on cudak. Pustimo glasbo ob strani...

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:16 AM

Ana, ne spominjam se kdo ga je takrat zagovarjal, vem pa da je bilo splošno mnenje, da ni kriv.


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Ljudje imajo radi, da jim kaj poveš, v pravih količinah, v skromnem, zaupnem tonu, in mislijo, da te poznajo, ampak te ne poznajo, poznajo podatke o tebi, dobijo samo dejstva, ne občutkov, ne, kaj si misliš o čemer koli, ne, kako si zaradi stvari, ki so se ti zgodile ali si se odločil zanje, tak, kot si. Vse, kar naredijo, je, da te napolnijo s svojimi občutki in mnenji in opažanji in ustvarijo novo življenje, ki ima s tvojim  bolj malo zveze, in tako si varen. (Per Petterson: Konje krast)


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:25 AM

^^ koliko smrklc se poroči z ostarelimi ata-ti ... pa ni nikoli neke velike debate. Pač je punca potrebovala father figure, on pa (kakor sem razumela) je od nekdaj preganjal mlade punce. 

 

Meni se to ne zdi normalno. On je bil v zvezi z Mio Farrow, potem je pa za njenim hrbtom 'šmiral' z njeno posvojenko. Torej ta punca se ni poročila z enim xy tipom, ampak s svojim očimom. 

 

Ampak ja ... the heart wants what the heart wants.

 

 

edit: zdaj sem prebala en članek, kjer piše, da dejansko Woody ni nikoli živel skupaj s Soon-Yi, in da ga ona dejansko nikoli ni videla kot očeta, ampak kot fanta od Mie (torej svoje mame).

 

Mislim, da samo oni sami vedo, kaj se je, in kaj se ni zgodilo. Je pa tudi precej patetično, da Mia pere umazano perilo s pomočjo Twitterja, itd. 


Edited by Kinky, 06 February 2014 - 09:33 AM.

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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:34 AM

Frcica to "jaz napisala", je bilo namenjeno Kinky, ampak me je Kami prehitrla vmes.
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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:35 AM

Aaaa, hehe, razumem. :)


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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:37 AM

Aja pa ce smo ze pri tem - tudi ce ga je videla kot fanta svoje mame (kar mi je pac cudno, tudi ce ni z njim zivela), se ni to ne zdi normalno.
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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:39 AM

Tudi meni ne. Mi pa tudi Mia deluje malo ku ku. 

 

Še ena slika:

 

 

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From left: Ronan Farrow held by Lark Previn, Woody Allen holding Dylan Farrow, Fletcher Previn, Daisy Previn, Soon-Yi Previn, Moses Farrow and Mia Farrow in Leningrad in 1987


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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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When you open your mind to the impossible, sometimes you find the truth.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:29 AM

Jaz imam pač občutek (moja intuicija), da so obtožbe resnične. Že od nekdaj mi je bil nagnusen, nekaj mi ni štimalo, odnos med njim in posvojenci je bil preveč intimen za nekoga, ki naj bi jim bil le oče. Žalostno se mi zdi, da nihče noče poslušati Dylan in da je njena zgodba že takoj avtomatsko označena za izmišljotino, kot se to zelo rado zgodi, kadar je vmes kakšna bolj slavna oseba, oz. kak cenjen župnik, ipd.. Se hitro pomete pod prag, žrtev pa celo življenje trpi, medtem ko se storilec prosto sprehaja naokoli.

Postavite se v vlogo Dylan... Tudi če je najmanjši sum, da je vse to, kar je napisala, res, bi to moral biti dovoljšen razlog, da se stvar temeljito razišče (pa tudi, če je treba z detektorjem laži).


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