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[Immortelle]

A to se že dobi pri nas?

EDIT: se, ja.

[Padme]

Moj favorit je pa zj Kenzo Amour. Končno najdla nekaj, kar mi ustreza. Full lepo diši, ne pušča madežev in deluje tud v teh pasje vročih dnevih. Men je zakon. Mal dražji je, ampak se splača.



Pred tem sem mela enga od Gosh, tud zelo všečen, ampak se ga ne dobi več nikjer.

[Ana]

Jaz sem probala še Vichy.jevega z modrim pokrovčkom in je neprimerljivo boljši od tistega z belim. Ful je fajn res, najbrž ga bom skos kupovala.

[Coco*]

Neutro roberts, z roza navojem. Tak pudrast vonj, lepo diši in jaz se nič ne potim po njem. Se pa tudi sicer minimalno. Lahko pa kombiniraš HidroFugal s kakim dišečim roll-onom, pa bo isto.

Meni je Neutro Roberts (Borotalco) najboljši deo, kar sem jih imela, zakon, edini, po katerem ne smrdim, ampak se ob potenju razvije nek nežen, pudrast vonj, mmm, ampak mi je uničil skoraj vse majice, pod pazduhami imam na majicah rumene fleke.

[eve]

Men je tud Neutro Roberts zakon, ga uporabljam že kar nekaj časa. Sam se mi pa ne zdi, da bi mi puščal fleke na majicah, vsaj opazila jih do sedaj še nisem.

[temida]

poznate kakšen deodorant (ne antiprespirant) brez vonja? tak, da bi lahko zravne uporabljala parfum

[Anouk]

kamen, al pa "tekoči" kamen? v mercatorju sem videla, da imajo.

[Nincha]

Pomojem to ne obstaja. Ker antiperspirant zavira potenje- zato je lahko bez vonja. Deodorant naj bi pa samo prikril smrad, torej mora met nek vonj.

[Anouk]

no ja, saj pot sam po sebi ni tok problematičen, ampak šele potem, ko pride v stik z bakterijami. zdej če deodorant prepreči bakterijam, da bi pot razgrajale, potem je lahko tud brez vonja. correct me if i'm wrong.

[Nincha]

Maš prov ja. Sam kako bi pa preprečil? Da naredi zaščitno plast vmes al kaj? Sam kakšna je pa pol razlika med tem pa antiperspirantom?

[Anouk]

klik



uf, ne vem, pomoje so not pač neke soli/spojine, na katere te bakterije "ne palijo" antiperspirant preprečuje potenje, deodoranti pa ne.

wiki quote:
"Deodorants are substances applied to the body to eliminate body odor caused by the bacterial breakdown of perspiration. A subgroup of deodorants, antiperspirants, prevent odor and reduce sweat produced by parts of the body."

Human perspiration is largely odorless until it is fermented by bacteria. Bacteria thrive in hot, humid environments. The human underarm is among the most consistently warm areas on the surface of the human body, and sweat glands provide moisture, which when excreted, has a vital cooling effect. When adult armpits are washed with alkaline pH soaps, the skin loses its acid mantel (pH 4.5 - 6), raising the skin pH and disrupting the skin barrier.[10] Bacteria thrive in high pH or base environments.[11] Creating such an environment in the armpit makes it more susceptible to bacterial colonization.[11] The bacteria feed on the sweat from the apocrine glands and on dead skin and hair cells, releasing 3-methyl-2-hexenoic acid in their waste, which is the primary cause of body odor.[12] Underarm hair wicks the moisture away from the skin and aids in keeping the skin dry enough to prevent or diminish bacterial colonization. The hair is less susceptible to bacterial growth and therefore is ideal for preventing the bacterial odor.[13]

Deodorants are classified and regulated as cosmetics by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)[1] and are designed to eliminate odor. Deodorants are usually alcohol-based. Alcohol initially stimulates sweating, but may also temporarily kill bacteria.[14] Deodorants can be formulated with other, more persistent antimicrobials such as triclosan, or with metal chelant compounds that slow bacterial growth. Deodorants may contain perfume fragrances or natural essential oils intended to mask the odor of perspiration.

Deodorants combined with antiperspirant agents are classified as drugs by the FDA.[1] Antiperspirants attempt to stop or significantly reduce perspiration and thus reduce the moist climate in which bacteria thrive. Aluminium chloride, aluminium chlorohydrate, and aluminium-zirconium compounds, most notably aluminium zirconium tetrachlorohydrex gly and aluminium zirconium trichlorohydrex gly, are frequently used in antiperspirants. Aluminium chlorohydrate and aluminium zirconium tetrachlorohydrate gly are the most frequent active ingredients in commercial antiperspirants.[15] Aluminium-based complexes react with the electrolytes in the sweat to form a gel plug in the duct of the sweat gland. The plugs prevent the gland from excreting liquid and are removed over time by the natural sloughing of the skin. The metal salts work in another way to prevent sweat from reaching the surface of the skin: the aluminium salts interact with the keratin fibrils in the sweat ducts and form a physical plug that prevents sweat from reaching the skin’s surface. Aluminium salts also have a slight astringent effect on the pores; causing them to contract, further preventing sweat from reaching the surface of the skin.[16] The blockage of a large number of sweat glands reduces the amount of sweat produced in the underarms, though this may vary from person to person.

Over-the-counter products labelled as "natural deodorant crystal" containing the chemical potassium alum have gained newfound popularity as an alternative health product.[17] A popular alternative to modern commercial deodorants is ammonium alum, which is a common type of alum sold in crystal form and often referred to as a deodorant crystal. It has been used as a deodorant throughout history in Thailand, the Far East, Mexico and other countries.

[Nincha]

Tega levega s slikce mam jst Sam to je antiperspirant.

[Ancka Pomarancka]

jst mam od vichya - brez vonjav, brez parabenov, brez alkohola. Edina stvar, ki pri meni deluje.

[Immortelle]

jst mam od vichya - brez vonjav, brez parabenov, brez alkohola. Edina stvar, ki pri meni deluje.

Kaj pa aluminij? Ima?

[_M_]

Blah, tole ^^pri meni sploh nima nobenega učinka, od vseh deotov se prav po tem najhitreje zavoham, fuj
najboljši mi je Adidasov z roza pokrovčkom

[Braunkopf]

Mene je Vichy tudi razočaral na celi črti.

[Fluffy The Stud Eater]

Mene pa navdušil na celi črti.

Kaj pa aluminij? Ima?

Ja.

[Immortelle]

Blah. Meni je zdravnik rekel, da se moram absolutno izogibati deodorantom z aluminijem, ker imam eno bezgavko pod pazduho malo povečano (že od malega), pa ne smem še bolj obremenjevat sistema.

[Kinky]

Men je tud Neutro Roberts zakon, ga uporabljam že kar nekaj časa. Sam se mi pa ne zdi, da bi mi puščal fleke na majicah, vsaj opazila jih do sedaj še nisem.

Enako, že 2 leti ga non stop uporabljam; se še nisem zavohala; je pa tudi res, da se bolj malo potim.

[Braunkopf]

^^ Sem na hitro prebrala, da bolj malo prdiš.