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#221 tasika

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:06 AM

Jaz sem se ob njegovi izjavila spomnila da številne članke in Nedeljskega, Dela, Novic, ... ko zbirajo denar za družine, ki so v stiski. Pri vseh teh družinah gre za bolj ali manj podobno zgodbo, starša že več let brez službe, invalidnost, .. otrok pa za celo vojsko. Ne morem si pomagat, ampak meni takšne zadeve zavrejo kri. Jaz v teh primerih precej obsojam starše, razumem, da si veren, da želiš imeti veliko družino, ampak če ze samega sebe težko preživiš, zakaj je potem treba imeti še 5, 7 otrok, ki bodo trpeli bedo. Meni se otroci v takšnih situacijah smilijo, ker sami niso nič krivi, ampak so ''usojeni'' na pomanjkanje, pogosto tudi zasmehovanje v šoli. Enostavno ne razumem, kako razmišljajo takšni ljudje, da morajo še več ljudi spraviti na svet, ko pa vejo, da se že tako težko preživljajo. 


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#222 Christianne

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:52 AM

To tudi jaz zelo težko razumem. 


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#223 Frčica

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:09 PM

Tašika, sej vem kaj si mislila in se strinjam s tabo. Pri teh družinah, ki jih opisuješ, pa tudi ne veš ali je revščina vseskozi prisotna ali morda od krize naprej ali povezana s kakšnimi dogodki.


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Ljudje imajo radi, da jim kaj poveš, v pravih količinah, v skromnem, zaupnem tonu, in mislijo, da te poznajo, ampak te ne poznajo, poznajo podatke o tebi, dobijo samo dejstva, ne občutkov, ne, kaj si misliš o čemer koli, ne, kako si zaradi stvari, ki so se ti zgodile ali si se odločil zanje, tak, kot si. Vse, kar naredijo, je, da te napolnijo s svojimi občutki in mnenji in opažanji in ustvarijo novo življenje, ki ima s tvojim  bolj malo zveze, in tako si varen. (Per Petterson: Konje krast)


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:34 AM

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
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#225 Ana

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:56 AM

Jaz sem ravno danes razmišljala, kako se nekateri narodi, ki imajo utemeljene razloge za svojo državo borijo za neodvisnost, RKC pa ima svojo državo in za to ni nobenega utemeljenega razloga.  :AJEBEŠ:


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:07 PM

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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

:surrender:


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:37 PM

^ F*cking shit. o_O

 

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
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#230 Podgana

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:58 PM

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Dear Leonard. To look life in the face, always, to look life in the face and to know it for what it is. At last to know it, to love it for what it is, and then, to put it away. Leonard, always the years between us, always the years. Always the love. Always the hours.

 

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:04 AM

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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:36 PM

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:01 PM

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
- </span></strong><span style="font-size:12px;">Anonymous</span></span></span></p>
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:15 PM

Vatikan je z denarjem fašistov skrivnostno kupoval nepremičnine po Evropi

 

 

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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:06 PM

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
- </span></strong><span style="font-size:12px;">Anonymous</span></span></span></p>
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:28 PM

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
- </span></strong><span style="font-size:12px;">Anonymous</span></span></span></p>
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#237 tasika

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:10 AM

^^  :surrender: 

jaz takega razmišljanja/verovanja ne razumem. Kolikor se trudim biti odprtega uma in toleranta, ampak take zadeve pa enostavno WTF.

 

Ravno sem se spomnila prigode nekaj let nazaj, ki mi je še bolj zasrala cerkev. V Braziliji so posilili 9,10 letno deklico, ki je zanosila. Deklica je bila fizično nesposobna donositi otroka, saj je bila prešibka/predrobna/pramalo razvita, in bi dokončanje dosečnosti ogrozilo njeno življenje in življenje otroka, ki bi se vrjetno rodil prizadet. No zdravniki so zaradi tega opravili splav, nakar jih je cerkev, oz. njihova skupnost izločila, tako zdravnike, kot starše in deklico, zaradi umora otroka!!! Vsa pojasnila, da je bilo ogroženo dekličino zdravje, da je bila posiljena, da niso umorilo otroka, ampak je bil to samo nekaj tednov star zarodek niso zalegla. Pravo štalo so zagnali no. :down: 

Ne vem ali se je potem Rim kaj vmešal oz posredoval, ampak že sama ozkoglednost in fanatičnost brazislkih predstavnikov me je šokirala. 


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:16 AM

Ena moja znanka je ob tem zapisala na FB, da če je možno, da zanosi, je možno tudi, da donosi in pač rodi. Pazite, ona je ekspert.  :wallbash:

 

Jaz sem 5 minut gledala v ekran, in nisem dojemala. Je pa ena tistih, ki so striktno PROTI splavu, in piše samo o tem. 

 

Protesti proti splavu v Ameriki:

 

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“It was true that I didn’t have much ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, I mean a better place than the one usually reserved. How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” (Charles Bukowski)

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When you open your mind to the impossible, sometimes you find the truth.


#239 Ana

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:47 PM

Omg, sem mislila da je to Pariz, Place de la Concorde :lol:


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:29 AM

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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">“Someone once told me the definition of Hell: </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">The last day you have on earth, the person you became </span></strong></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><strong><span style="font-size:12px;">will meet the person you could have become.”<br>
- </span></strong><span style="font-size:12px;">Anonymous</span></span></span></p>
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