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[Shapa]

Šampon in balzam sta že bila ocenjena, me pa zanima še:

K-PAK Deep-Penetrating Reconstructor





Iščem še sestavine za:
K-PAK Intense Hydrator
K-PAK Chelating Shampoo

Če kdo najde, se priporočam.

[sonchika]

Ta reč je mastna, s keratinom in nekaj malega proteini. OK reč.

[Shapa]

Torej samo ok? zdaj pa res ne vem, kaj naj uporabljam za obnovo las.

[DiLeMa]

Tigi Oatmeal & Honey regenerator? The best damn thing!

[Shapa]

regenerator ok, sam jaz rabim še nekaj konkretnega - masko/oblogo

pa pri regeneratorju, ne vem če ne bi raje vzela kpak...nisem prepričana, kakšna je primerjava teh dveh.

[DiLeMa]

Ma ti moraš gledat sestavine, ne naziv. Regenerator Oatmeal & Honey je sestavinsko in po učinku boljši kot katerakoli intenzivna maska, kar sem jih jaz kdaj videla (pa jih je blo breath taking število). Pri Tigiju pač nimajo teh zadev v obliki mask, ampak imajo intenzivne regeneratorje, kar je enako. Ta zadeva je prepolna proteinov, naravnih olj, naravnih izvlečkov, vitaminov in skratka vsega, kar resnično pomaga lasem in je tudi precej boljše od tegale K-PAK. Jaz sem si 7 let redno belila lase (tko vsake tri tedne) in sm mela grozne, presušene in poškodovane lase, trde kot slama, pa sem pognala ogromno denarja za razne regeneratorje in intenzivne maske, edino Oatmeal & Honey regeneratorju pa je uspelo moje lase resnično obnovit. Boljšega in bolj konkretnega, kot je to, ne boš dobila. Mislim, da se bo tle z mano strinjalo veliko forumašic, ki so ga uporabljale.

[Shapa]

Pa ravno sem kupila medeni balzam od TBS

[Shapa]

Joico K-Pak Sun Therapy Nourishing Shampoo

Water, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Cocamide MEA, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Lauryl Glucoside, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Hydrolyzed Kerain, Cocodimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Keratin PG-Propyl Methylsilanediol, Hydroxyethyl Urea, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Ethylhexyl Salicylate, Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, Aleurites Moluccana Seed Oil, Allantoin, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Oenothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Oil, Psidium Guajava Fruit Extract, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, PPG-12-Buteth-16, Amodimethicone, PPG-26-Buteth-26, Glycerin, Glycolipids, Tocopheryl Acetate, Glycol Stearate, Hyaluronic Acid, C11-15 Pareth-7, Laureth-9, Citric Acid, Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Thioctic Acid, Trideceth-12, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Citrate, Triethyl Citrate, Tetrasodium EDTA, Methylparaben, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Hexyl Cinnamal, Limonene, Linalool, Fragrance (Parfum).

Joico K-Pak Sun Therapy Treatment Masque

Water, Dimethicone, Cetearyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Behentrimonium Chloride, Cyclopentasiloxane, Polydecene, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Cocdimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Keratin PG-Propyl Methylsilanediol, Hydroxyethyl Urea, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Ethylhexyl Salicylate, Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, Aleurites Moluccana Seed Oil, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Oenothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Oil, Psidium Guajava Fruit Extract, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, PPG-26-Buteth-26, Tocopheryl Acetate, Allantoin, Glyceryl Oleate, Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Thioctic Acid, Glycolipids, Hyaluronic Acid, Disodium EDTA, Triethyl Citrate, DMDM Hydantoin, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Hexyl Cinnamal, Limonene, Linalool, Fragrance (Parfum).

Joico K-Pak Sun Therapy Protective Sun Milk

Water, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, VP/Hexadecene Copolymer, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Cocodimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Keratin PG-Propyl Methylsilanediol, Hydroxyethyl Urea, Ethylhexyl Salicylate, Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, Aleurites Moluccana Seed Oil, Oenothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Oil, Helianthus Annus (Sunflower) Seed Extract, Bisamino PEG-PPG-41/3 Aminoethyl PG-Propyl Dimethicone, Psidium Guajava Fruit Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Tocopheryl Acetate, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Glycerin, Quaternium-70, Glycolipids, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Hydroxyethyl Cetearamidopropyldimonium Chloride, Steareth-21, Thioctic Acid, Allantoin, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behenyl Alcohol, Dipropylene Glycol, Hyaluronic Acid, PPG-26-Buteth-26, Cinnamidopropyltrimonium Chloride, Polyquaternium-55, Phenyl Trimethicone, Butylene Glycol, Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Propylene Glycol, Disodium EDTA, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Triethyl Citrate, Coumarin, Hexyl Cinnamal, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxalde Hyde, Limonene, Linalool, Fragrance (Parfum).

Joico K-Pak Intense Hydrator

Deionized Water (Aqua), Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Cetyl Esters, Lanolin, Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin (Quadramine Complex), Laurdimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin, Hydrolyzed Keratin PG-Propyl Methylsilanediol, Thioctic Acid, Psidium Guajava (Guava) Fruit Extract, Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Denothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Oil, Aleurites Moluccana Seed Oil, Glcolipids, Allantoin, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, Hyaluronic Acid, Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Benzophenone-4, Amodimethicone, Ceteareth-20, Cetrimonium Chloride, Trideceth-12, Butryospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Methylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Fragrance (Parfum).


Pa bom kar sem dodala še nekaj iz drugih linij:

Joico Body Luxe Thickening Shampoo

Deionized Water (Aqua), Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Decyl Glucoside, Lauramide MEA, PEG-3 Distearate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin (Quadramine Complex), Laurdimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin, Hydrolyzed Oat Protein, Oat Amino Acids, Silicone Quarternium-16, Acetamide MEA, Benzophenone-4, Distearth-75, IPDI, Glycerin, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Hydrogenated Starch Hydrolysate, Linoleumidopropyl PG-Dimonium Chloride Phosphate Dimethicone, PPG-5-Ceteth-10 Phosphate, Polyquaternium-11, Polyquaternium-22, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Disodium EDTA, Wheatgermamidopropyl Dimethylamine Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, DMDM Hydantoin, Iodopopynyl Butylcarbanate, Undeceth-11, Butyloctanol, Undeceth-5, Fragrance (Parfum).

Joico Body Luxe Thickening Conditioner

Deionized Water (Aqua), Cetearyl Alcohol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Glycerin, Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin (Quadramine Complex), Laurdimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin, Hydrolyzed Oat Protien, Oat Amino Acids, Silicone Quaternium-16, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Polyquaternium-10, Polysorbate 60, Disodium EDTA, Methylparaben, Undeceth-11, Buytloctanol, Undeceth-5, Fragrance (Parfum).

Joico Curl Definer Creme/Gel

Water (Aqua), Polyquaternium-37, Hydrolyzed Keratin (Quadramine Complex), Cocodimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Keratin, Aleurites Moluccana Seed Oil, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Propylene Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate, Polyimide-1, Sorbitol, Propylene Glycol, PPG-1 Trideceth-6, VP/DMAPA Acrylates Copolymer, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Diazolidinyl Urea, Fragrance (Parfum), Benzyl Benzoate, Limonene, Hexyl Cinnamal, Butylphenyl Methylpropional.

Joico Silk Result Smoothing Shampoo

Deionized Water (Aqua), Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Disodium Cocamphodiacetate, Cocamide MIPA, Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin (Quadramine Complex), Laurdimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin, Sodium Lauroyl Hydrolyzed Silk, Silk Amino Acids, Arginine HCL, Hydrolyzed Silk PG-Propyl Methylsilanediol, Dimethicone, Cetyl Alcohol, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Acrylates/Amino-Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl PEG-20 Itaconate Copolymer, Hexylene Glycol, Propylene Glycol, Glycol Stearate, Sodium Cetearyl Sulfate, Benzoic Acid, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Disodium EDTA, Methylparaben, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Chloride, Fragrance (Parfum), Yellow 5 (CI 19140), Red 40 (CI 16035).

Joico Silk Result Smoothing Conditioner

Deionized Water (Aqua), Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Cetyl Esters, Lanolin, Glycol Stearate, Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin (Quadramine Complex), Laurdimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin, Silk Amino Acids, Hydrolyzed Silk PG-Propyl Methylsilanediol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Trideceth-12, Citric Acid, Tetrasodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, Methylparaben, Fragrance (Parfum), Red 40 (CI 16035), Yellow 5 (CI 19140).

[DiLeMa]

Ne mi zamerit, ker ti ne bom napisala ocene za vsak izdelek posebaj, ampak dejstvo je, da so si med sabo zelo podobni. Skoraj vsi vsebujejo keratin in naravne izvlečke ter olja, s tem da ima linija Silk Result notr še sviline proteine. In tista Body Luxe Thickening ne vsebuje olj, ker so potencialni obteževalci las. Vse je zelo kvalitetno in fajn.

[Shapa]

Ni panike, sej vem, da sem jih velik dala sem, ampak sem bila tako vesela, da sem našla sestavine

Zanima me najbolj:

K-Pak Intense Hydrator - obljubljajo, da navlaži in zapre las

in pa

Curl Definer Creme/Gel

[DiLeMa]

Intense Hydrator je izjemno kvalitetna zadeva, nekaj podobnega, kot od Paula Mitchella, je vlažilno, keratinsko, proteinsko, z veliko naravnimi ekstrakti, fantastično. Curl Definer je takisto enkraten, je pa vprašanje, kako se obnese pri kodrih, tega ne vem.

[Shapa]

Super, ker je tole sigurno ceneje kot Paul Mitchell.

Najlepša hvala

[Firefly]

Paul Mitchell

Joico

Hm..Mislim, da je od PM ceneje

[Shapa]

Sem gledala na tujih straneh ja, pa zgleda tako. Paul Mitchell pa nima keratina, ne?

Aja, pa PM je manjše pakiranje.

[DiLeMa]

Ne, nima ga. Sicer pa ne primerjajte tujih cen z našimi, ker velikokrat to ni pravo merilo. Če je v Ameriki PM cenejši, ni rečeno, da je pri nas tudi tako. Cene pri nas so dostkrat precej drugačne.

[Zlatolaska]

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Tukaj dobiš celo kolekcijo. Sej se mi zdi poceni ampak so res male količine. Mislite da se splača ?

[Baby]

Tuki je Joico K-Pak Deep-Penetrating Reconstructor z malo drugačnimi sestavinami:

Water, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Mineral Oil/Paraffinium Liquidum/Huile Minerale, Glycol Stearate, PEG-8 Distearate, Sodium Chloride, Ceteth-2, Hydrolyzed Hair Keratin, Laurdimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Keratin, Mystril Myristate, Citric Acid, Fragrance/Parfum, Sorbic Acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearyl Alcohol, Carthamus Tinctorius(Safflower) Seed Oil, Yeast Extract/Faex/Extrait de Leuvre,ALoe barbadensis Leaf Juice, Keratin Amino Acids, Methylparaben, Propylparaben.

[DiLeMa]

Spodnji 'članek' je napisala ženska, ki že leto dni redno uporablja Joico K-PAK Deep Penetrating Reconstructor in je napisala nekaj zelo koristnih napotkov v zvezi z njegovo uporabo, opisala je rezultate in tudi povedala nekaj o njegovem delovanju. Mislim, da bi blo fino, če si to preberete vsi tisti, ki uporabljate ali pa nameravate v prihodnosti uporabljat omenjeni reconstructor. Je sicer kar nekaj napisanega, ampak je fino, če si vzamete čas in preberete. Jaz sem prebrala tudi nekaj zelo dobro in podkovano napisanih ocen tega reconstructorja in dejansko so vsi z njim izredno zadovoljni, ob enem pa posebej poudarjajo, da je zadeva res samo za poškodovane in kemično obdelane lase in se nikakor ne priporoča uporaba na zdravih laseh. Jaz ga bom uporabljala samo enkrat na 14 dni na konicah, ostali pa preberite eno od ocen in presodite sami.


I have a huge problem with my hair breaking. I treat my hair very gently, but I seem to just genetically have weak hair, prone to breakage. The best product I've found for this problem is Joico K-Pak Deep Penetrating Reconstructor. It transforms my weak hair into strong, resilient tresses.

What is K-Pak?

K-Pak Reconstructor was recommended to me by my stylist about a year ago. She noticed that I was battling severe breakage, and implored me to begin using a protein treatment once a week. Her personal favorite is K-Pak, so I went with that. She has educated me a bit on the structure of hair, and how different products works. Along with my review of K-Pak, I hope I'll shed some light on how and why this works (when used properly).

K-Pak Reconstructor is a treatment made by Joico. It is NOT a conditioner. I repeat, it is NOT a conditioner! The general purpose of a conditioner is to moisturize, detangle, add slip, and make it easier to style. K-Pak is not meant to do any of those things. If you are looking for a deep conditioner, this is NOT IT! The purpose of K-Pak is to fill in the structural holes of one's hair shaft, using protein. By strengthening the shaft, it reduces breakage and results in healthier hair.

Let's start from the beginning. Hair is dead. As a general rule, the most effective way to achieve healthy hair (and skin, and nails...) is by leading a healthy life. That means plenty of water, a balanced diet including vitamins and protein, no smoking, plenty of rest.... etc. We all know the drill. While many external treatments can make one's hair feel or look better, very few can actually aid in repairing damage. I am not in any way claiming that a reconstructor is the best way to healthy, strong hair. But in a case like mine, when a balanced diet, gentle products, and a healthy lifestyle still don't result in strong hair, a reconstructor can help.

What Does Joico Claim K-Pak Will Do?

Joico's website claims that K-Pak is meant for dry, damaged, or chemically treated hair.

Joico claims K-Pak:

~Provides the ultimate, intense reconstruction from cortex to cuticle.
~Helps reduce damage through proper protein and moisture balance.
~Revitalizes shine, body, and manageability.
~Promotes vitality and bounce with weightless formula.
~Protects and repairs with K-Pak's unique Hair Protection System, featuring Joico's exclusive Triamine complex.
~Safe for permed and colored hair.
~Tropical and fresh fruit fragrance.

So What's In K-Pak Reconstructor?

Deionized Water, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Glycol Stearate, Ceteth 2, Mineral Oil, PEG-8 Distearate, Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin (Triamine Complex), Laurdimonium Hydroxpropyl Hydrolyzed Human Hair Keratin (Cationic Triamine Complex), Sodium Chloride, Myristyl Myristate, Citric Acid, Fragrance, Sorbic Acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearyl Alcohol, Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed Oil, Hydrolyzed Yeast, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Methylparaben, Propylparaben


Price, Packaging, Purchasing Info:

Joico K-Pak Reconstructor is not a cheap product by any means. The 10.5 ounce tube is currently $30 on drugstore.com. My stylist is able to sell it to me for considerably less. You might find a better deal on Ebay, and I've seen it at CVS drugstore for less than $30. I'd strongly recommend shopping around, because $30 is the absolute highest price that I've come across for this product.

It's packaged in a cream-colored tube, and you just squeeze it out. The reconstructor itself has a unique consistency. Not as thick or slick as conditioner, but more of a medium cream. The smell is a little off to me. Described as "coconut/tropical", but really more of a banana/coconut scent, except not in a delicious way. It doesn't really bug me, but it could be better.

How To Use K-Pak:

The directions on the packaging are very brief: Apply to damp hair. Leave on for 5 minutes. Rinse.

There are a number of things you need to know to get the maximum benefit from this, or any protein reconstructor.

First, K-Pak is a penetrating product - it does not simply add gloss to the cuticle, but actually needs to penetrate the shaft in order to work. Most of us use products containing silicone of some sort or another. Chances are, your conditioner is loaded with them. Silicones coat the outside of the strand, making it difficult for a treatment to penetrate the strand. Because of this, it's best to use a clarifying shampoo to remove the build up prior to applying K-Pak. I like to use a clarifying shampoo weekly anyways, so it's not a big deal for me.

Second, unlike deep conditioners, there's no reason to leave K-Pak in for any extended time period. You won't get different results. Hair can only absorb a certain amount of protein at once, so five or ten minutes is more than enough time.

You can use K-Pak too much. Even the most damaged hair will only benefit from 2 treatments a week. Overuse of a protein treatment can potentially cause hair to feel brittle and dry. I use K-Pak once a week. If you're already using a different protein treatment, like Redken Anti-Snap, you might want to limit your use of K-Pak to once every few weeks.

Finally, I need to banish the most common misconception about reconstructors. K-Pak is not a replacement for a conditioner. If you find your own hair responds well to deep conditioners, keep on using them! Most importantly, it's crucial to follow K-Pak with conditioner! K-Pak won't add softness, or slip, and without following with conditioner you'll find it exceptionally hard to detangle your hair.

My hair is fine, and I like to apply this starting at about 4 inches down from the roots. There's no reason to apply K-Pak to the scalp or roots, in fact that'll just make it limp and heavy feeling. Make sure to rinse well, too. If it's not well-rinsed, it makes my hair feel a tad on the sticky side. To recap: Use clarifying shampoo, apply K-Pak, let sit for 5-10 minutes, rinse well, use conditioner.

Down To The Nitty-Gritty... Does It WORK?

Oh yeah, it works. It works great! After a full year of using K-Pak, my hair is much stronger and thicker looking. It doesn't break off like it used to, and I don't get split ends. Just 5 minutes a week has really made a huge improvement to my hair. The results make the price, wierd scent, and slight inconvenience 100% worth it to me. I'd highly recommend this if you're hair is damaged. Stick with it, and in a few weeks you're bound to see results!

[Nincha]

Jst sm si zdej kupla tale Sun therapy protective sun milk, pa me sam zanima če je okej če to uporabljam skupi z daily balancing šamponom, intense hydratorjom pa rekonstruktorjom, al bi mi vse skupi preveč nekak nasičl lase z vsem tem keratinom itd? Pa še kaj je v njem tazga, da se nalaga na lase in da potrebuje čistilni šampon da gre dol?

[wondering]

Joico K-Pak Split End Mender is targeted at damaged or chemically treated hair. The product fixes existing split ends while preventing new ones from forming so that your hair will be instantly moisturised and beautifully smooth.

Ingredients
Water/Aqua/Eau, Polyquaternium-28, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cyclotetrasiloxane, Dimethiconol, Amodimethicone, Glycerin, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Cocodimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Keratin PG-Propyl Methylsilanediol, Aleurites Moluccana Seed Oil, Allantoin, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Oenothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Oil, PVM/MA Copolymer, Psidium Guajava Fruit Extract, Hydrogenated Polydecene, Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, Tocopheryl Acetate, C11-15 Pareth-7, Hyaluronic Acid, Glycolipids, Hydroxypropyl Guar, Sodium Polyacrylate, Laureth-9, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Trideceth-12, Trideceth-6, Thioctic Acid, Sodium Hydroxide, Disodium EDTA, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Benzyl Salicylate, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Citronellol, Hydroxycitronellal, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Limonene, Linalool, Fragrance/Parfum.

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